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[ellenmillion]

Ursula's 2007 calendar is on sale!

Fantasy Isn't Always Pretty (dark fantasy/gothic coloring book) is in stock!

Orders printing and setting! House cleaned! Inbox down to 22! More EMG designs up (and declined)! New artists added to the system! 1/2 episode of Star Gate watched*! Need a nap!



*Is is me, or did they blow their continuity in the first episode by having a two-way wormhole??

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[pixiewildflower.livejournal.com]

*hugs* There are several things I don't understand in the Star Gate universe.

[gymnopedie.livejournal.com]

ooh coloring books...

your 'isn't' has a slash in all of them from what I saw (a \ )

[ellenmillion.livejournal.com]

Yeah. :/ Leaving the \ out of the title block breaks everything and won't show the coloring book entry at all. I need to figure out how to strip it in the title, but still show the entry and haven't had a chance to yet!

[eregyrn.livejournal.com]

*Is is me, or did they blow their continuity in the first episode by having a two-way wormhole??

It's not just you. ;-) People have been snickering about that for years.

Although, IIRC, there is a point in that scene in which you can see behind Apophis and his Jaffa that the wormhole was briefly off? (You've seen it more recently than I, obviously; I keep meaning to check, but keep forgetting.) In which case, the continuity error is, rather, that for that episode alone, Apophis appears to have the ability to dial a Gate without a DHD handy (since the SGC doesn't have one, it dials via computer). This would of course be a *fabulous* trick, if you could do it. The Goa'uld are never able to do it again, though.

(Much later in the series, the Nox prove capable of doing it -- getting an outgoing wormhole going without either a DHD or "manual" dialling, which is effortful and requires a power source; but hey, that's the Nox, and nobody else ever seems able to do it.)

[ellenmillion.livejournal.com]

I didn't notice the wormhole going off, but I'm SURE I would have noticed it coming back on - the Goa-uld never left the grate, so they would've gotten vaporized in the initial sploosh, I'm sure. (Er, were the Nox able to bypass the opening sploosh? I can remember!) I was watching fairly closely 'cause it did occur to me to wonder how they were going to get back without dialing capabilities as soon as they showed up.

*laughs* Oh well... I can hand-wave. :P

[ellenmillion.livejournal.com]

Ah! Watched it again - wormhole definitely closes (complete with closing noise) and is off for some time. They just totally skip the whole how they got it open again issue.

[eregyrn.livejournal.com]

*nods* And yeah, so they not only manage to reopen it without a DHD and without, presumably, a power-source hooked up to it* -- but without a kawoosh.

But, yes -- when the Nox manage to pull the same trick later in the series (Lya does it in "Pretense" in S3, I believe), they are also proved able to call up an active outgoing wormhole without a kawoosh. (It looks neat when Lya does it. :)

Trivia: later, in the ep "1969", which comes after "Pretense", at the end of the ep SG-1 overshoots in their time-travelling and arrives in a future mothballed Gateroom, where they are met by a grown-up, in fact, elderly Cassandra -- and at the end of that scene, when she sends them on their way to get back to the right time-period, she activates a device on her hand/wrist that opens a wormhole much the way the Nox did; fans always assumed we were meant to conclude that in that future timeline, the SGC got the technology from the Nox, or else we figured out how to copy it.

(The problems of opening the Gate from the SGC end in that COTG scene are many. ;-) Not only do you normally need a DHD, or in the SGC's case a dialling computer that is filling in for a DHD, you also need a power source. Normally, the DHD also provides that to the Gate. There are a number of episodes that hinge on the idea that if you lack the DHD, you can "dial manually" -- it takes effort, but you can spin the inner ring by brute force -- but only if you have a sufficiently powerful "battery" hooked up as well. In S1's "Torment of Tantalus", they'll jury-rig a lightning-bolt to do it. In a number of later episodes, the power is provided by a portable naquadah reactor, and so on.)

(The problem in COTG? Well, no DHD. The SGC hooks power cables up to the Gate, basically, in order to jury-rig that solution to having no DHD, as well. But... at the start of COTG, isn't the Gate supposed to be mothballed? The whole idea of SGC at that point is that they're "watching" this Gate but they don't really know why and it seems like the ultimate crappy guard assignment, thus the poker playing. But if the Gate's just mothballed... why would it even still be hooked up to power, let alone, to *live* power? But if it wasn't... and if it isn't drawing on the power of a DHD, which it's not... then it shouldn't have had the power to create an outgoing wormhole.)

Ah, first episodes! Always full of so many problems! :D