Date: 2007-12-19 08:36 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-12-19 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaenanda.livejournal.com
You know, the other day it was 42 degrees outside, and only slightly warmer inside my uninsulated apartment, which has only one tiny little inefficient wall heater for any kind of warmth, in a room where I do not get internet connection anyway, and I thought to myself, "Damn, I might as well be in Alaska"

Now I see that I was wrong. Still cold, but obviously, wrong. Brrr.

Date: 2007-12-19 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hippiechic567.livejournal.com
Brrr! Stop making me cold!

Date: 2007-12-19 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uminomamori.livejournal.com
poor ellen T_T *sends warm fuzzies*

Date: 2007-12-19 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saskya.livejournal.com
... I think the florida girl in me just died from exposure to cold.
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Date: 2007-12-19 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellenmillion.livejournal.com
Heating oil is up to $3.16 a freaking gallon, which is outrageous. We just paid $800 to have our tank filled, and that should last the rest of the winter and well into the summer. Maybe $1000 a year in heating oil? A little more if it's a cold year. We do supplement oil heat with a wood stove. Cords of wood are about $100-$125, but we have plenty of birch leftover off of our land. We do have to get some spruce, maybe a cord a year.

Date: 2007-12-19 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puffbird.livejournal.com
That is a thing of marvel. :)

I always enjoyed it when the temps fell to 20 below, because the diesel would freeze in the school buses, forcing school closures... but in eastern Idaho, it might happen once or twice a year. It wasn't a guarantee...

Date: 2007-12-19 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coldtortuga.livejournal.com
The diesel doesn't actually freeze. (At least not at piddly lukewarm temperatures like -20F.) But a diesel engine needs to reach a certain temperature before the combustion cycle becomes self-sustaining. Vehicles up north (Alaska, Canada, etc.) are usually "winterized" with some extra parts, mostly electric heaters on crucial bits like the oil pan, battery, head-bolt, etc. -- one has to plug these electric heaters into a wall outlet to get things warm enough to run :-)

Date: 2007-12-20 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puffbird.livejournal.com
Gee, and I always trusted my mother... (Though I guess she said the fuel "gelled", and the whole point was that the buses wouldn't run...) As for winterized vehicles... I figured as much. Otherwise, things would just shut down every winter... :)

I remember my parents plugging our truck in every night in the winter so the engine would start the next day... though I never really knew what the plug was attached to. But Idaho winters are still balmy compared to Alaska. :)

Date: 2007-12-20 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coldtortuga.livejournal.com
http://xkcd.com/357/ (http://xkcd.com/357/)

Date: 2007-12-20 02:34 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-12-19 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryokomusouka.livejournal.com
That brings back memories...like the time I walked home after a basketball game with damp braids and looked like Wendy (the restaurant one) when I got home...

Date: 2007-12-20 12:55 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-12-20 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rendergirl.livejournal.com
Holy sh*t... is that 20 BELOW zero? I can't comprehend it... no way...

Date: 2007-12-20 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valdary.livejournal.com
OK, so I'm going to stop whinging about -3%

We live near a body fitting shop that does the inside carpentry for mobile units, trailers and caravans.

They sell us their offcuts for firewood, we buy 6 sacks a week for £2.60 (about $5). In winter we probably use about 8 sacks a week, but we buy the wood every week in the summer too and stockpile the wood, so it generally lasts us through. (Much cheaper than going to the official firewood selling places) If its very cold I might get a coupla sacks of coal which burns hotter and longer.

I shall have to get better insulation, your house is warmer inside than mine is.

Date: 2007-12-20 05:47 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-12-20 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenelycam.livejournal.com
Um....have fun with that. o.O

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